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Can love be legislated?


The issue of voting and trying to legislate "love" has always bothered me tremendously. What difference does gender make? Two people are in love and want to seal that love legally. I, personally, feel that God loves us ALL unconditionally, and is certainly not gender-specific when He observes us doing our day to day screw ups.

I don't get it. TO ME, ALL hearts love the same, and ALL hearts break the same. Love does not attach itself to a gender-bias. Love is relentless - it will blindside anyone. Love harasses all. Love bewilders us all. Love has no boundaries...and it certainly doesn't have an agenda. Love lifts your soul to the heavens, or it can drag you through hell. Love is, without a doubt, the most incredibly powerful thing in the entire universe. Why? Because it comes directly from God.

As a reader,  I don't care what color of skin you have, what you do for a living, how much money you make, how big your house is, how famous you are or aren't, if your love interest is the same-sex or not, and I don't care what kind of car you may drive or what breed your dog is (I hope it's one you adopted from the Humane Society).

What I DO care about is the current love interest you have that has crushed your heart with the kindness of a Mack truck, or who has suddenly made your toes tingle like never before! THESE things I want to help you with, because THESE are the things that truly matter in ANY and ALL relationships!

Make it a GREAT day!
Jane
AZangel99
Published Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:41 PM by Jane Wilcox

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:26 PM by justaskdrdonna

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I live in California and I am embarrassed by what has happen today. It is oppression. Love is love and everyone is enititled to their lives. It is ok to not like someone but it is not ok to oppress a person. Let's all see that we come from the same source and are of the same existence. God.
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:34 PM by Jane Wilcox

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Donna, in AZ it took 3 votes to get legislation through (passed the first 2 times). With some very creative wording, and a mega-marketing attack, it was voted down the 3rd time. Personally, I don't see what difference it makes. Yes, we are ALL of the same source, and God doesn't judge nearly as harsh as humankind. "The times, I hope, they are a changin'".
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:40 PM by justaskdrdonna

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I was shocked at what happend today. I hope it goes to the U.S. supreme court.
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:56 PM by BeCharmed

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Amen!
How long can we stand by and allow legislation that not only affects the rights of a human being, but degrades the soul? Moral judgment is a personal choice, taking away legal freedom based on moral judgment is wrong.
Love is love. People are people.
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:07 PM by Love Angel Tarot

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I'm shocked also. I'm sure someday the marriage laws of today will be viewed as bigoted and archaic. It's all about fear and false information. I fail to see how same sex marriage hurts anyone. Time will turn the tide, but real families are suffering right now because of this.
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:21 PM by TrueNorth24

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Bottom line is this is state mandated bigotry.  Marriage--ALL marriages--are recognized by the state as legally binding contracts of two consenting adults entering into a civil union.  

The religious aspect is totally seperate and is included by CHOICE of the couple getting married...it reflects whatever religious convictions they may share.  

What happened to seperation of church and state?  Isn't this a prime example of why our Founding Fathers made sure to include that in the Constitution?  To avoid legal battles based on religious principles?  

I agree, Jane.  Love is love.  My God is a perfect God of love.  We are all created from God.  So, did God make a mistake when making homosexuals?  Or does God have a twisted sense of humor that caused Him to put that much love into the hearts of two same-sex people only to say: "PSYCHE! Sorry! Ya caaaaaaan't have it!"

The answer, by the way, is:  C.  None of the above.  The tide is turning...s l o w l y
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:38 PM by justaskdrdonna

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I along with my friends are not going to patronize any business that supports oppression of any kind. Iowa is more advanced and evolved than California. Who would of thunk it?
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:51 PM by Jane Wilcox

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TN24, I really didn't mean for this to be a "political vs. religion" blog, but you are absolutely correct about the separation of Church & State.

According to the Bible, however; God loves us ALL UNCONDITIONALLY. So, why does mankind feel the need to put a "condition" on that UNCONDITIONAL love God has for us? hmmmm.
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:21 PM by Sandy H.

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I agree, love is love...you know my motto, "Don't care if you F*** a turtle, as long as you are happy, healthy and wise - none of my business as my business is none of yours"
Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:21 PM by Kildar

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Leviticus 18:22
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a woman as one lies with a man, they have both what is detestable. They must be put to death. Their blood is on their own hands.

Romans 1:26
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even the women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. (27)In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

I think the bible is pretty clear.
Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:20 AM by Jane Wilcox

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This blog is about fundamental civil rights and SEPARATION of CHURCH & STATE - which our constitiution guarantees us. ALL men (and women) shall be created equal. We were, according to the book you hold so dear, created in God's perfect vision- are you implying that God made a "mistake"???

Perhaps you should spend more time reading the Constitution?

Blessings & Enlightenment to you!
Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:58 PM by Storm Cestavani

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Unfortunatly, it sucks!   I have been very supportive of Lieutenant Dan Choi's Don't Ask Don't Tell movement.  I think its time for many of these issues to be resolved once and for all. Considering it is 2009 not 1959, I think that many can agree that becoming more inclusive rather than separative is the answer to a more cohesive country.  

I know lots of gay people that are still very closeted, even here on Keen (no I wont name names, because I respect those people) and they are afraid if people know they are gay then they wont get as much business. Even though, I make plenty of money being openly gay, and I doubt any clients are questioning my sexual preference when they call for advice.  

I think its time to stop hiding and start doing!  
 

Storm

P.S.  Great Topic J
Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:06 PM by Storm Cestavani

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Kildar states:

Leviticus 18:22
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a woman as one lies with a man, they have both what is detestable. They must be put to death. Their blood is on their own hands.

Storm responds:

First off, the last time I checked a gay man does not lay with a man as he does with a woman, because gay men don't sleep with women.  They are not attracted to them sexually.  

Further, this is not even the correct interpretation of the original hebrew text.  Since, I am a kabbalist, I have studied this thoroughly.  In essence, it states that you should not just have sex with ANYONE regardless of the sex to just "have an orgasm".   It means that we should have some feelings of love before we sleep with them.  

It amazes me how many people quote these precepts, as they sit down to dinner with their shrimp cocktails.   As that is a prohibition, according to the torah, but it is still done on a day to day basis by many many people.  However, I guess it is ok to eat shrimp, but not ok to love someone.  

Amazing.

DON'T HIDE!

Storm
 
Monday, July 06, 2009 9:54 PM by Love Angel Tarot

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Thank you for comments and common sense Storm. Coming out of the closet is such a personal issue. I bet if every gay individual came out it would be very surprising. Especially here on keen. I don't advertise it but I'm also gay. It's about time everyone enjoyed the same rights in this country. We pay taxes right? Why do we continue to be 2nd class citizens?
Love and Blessings,
Teri

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