Finding Joy by Marie Anna

Yes, People do all sort of plagairism here on the net. I have seen wording from my profile, posted on other profiles, I was going to do a short story series on here just to have something to read and that would let people know my knowledge, but I decided against it for this very reason, My own ideas, are my own. It isn't that hard to be creative, u just have to play with the wording untl things fit. It is bad for us, but people need to realize and do their own work! Have a good day~Melody

Dear Marie:

I removed all my blogs this week for that very reason.  There is so much underhandedness and accusations floating around that I really don't think it is worth the trouble any longer of posting each day.  I think when we all get paranoid and start reporting each other and trying to ruin another's busines it is time to really look at what is motivating all this competition.  I have just decided to back away for a little while myself.

Rosie

I think it comes down to this.  If you have something to say, then for Goodness Sake everyone...Say it LOUDLY (!!!!!) and do not let anyone or anything stop you.  Even fear of plagiarism or random paranoia.  Tuck the negatives away into a special place and throw the positive out into the world.      

Marie Anna...I'd say you should be flattered that someone took your words as their own, except I'm to busy thinking you should be pissed.  ;-)  If it is worth it to you...ask the thief to remove your stolen thought, or at the very least to give you credit.

I was looking yet again at all the plagiarized posts here on the Keen blogs...and then read the Keen Terms of Use.  Keen specifically states that an advisor has the right to post what they post in these blogs.  PERSONALLY, as an advisor, I would not want to jeopardize my business by stealing the original works of someone else and claiming them as my own.  But then again, I'm a rational sort.  Others clearly choose otherwise.    

Rosie...between you and I (and everyone who reads this) don't let the sharks suck the life out of you.  If you need a break, take a break...but don't let them the daily grind get you down.  There is just as much heart and truth and integrity in the blogs and Keen community as there is negativity and farce.  Look for what you need.  It's here.  Somewhere in here.  Everywhere.  

Marie Anna...sorry to get all charged up on your blog, girl.  You raised a point I get waaaaay into.

Hugs to you and your success!!

Heather  

What I don't understand is why people who want to use someone elses words don't simply e-mail and ask for permission.  I have an off Keen website where I use things written by people here on Keen, Marie being one of them, I simply e-mail asking for permission to use their blog postings and in return put a link back to their Keen home page.  I havn't been turned down yet when I've made this request, it takes 2 minutes of my time  to send the e-mail and it has enhanced my website enormously.  Simple manners and courtesy is all it takes.  

there is nothing more exciting than creating from scratch.

Thank you, everyone, for your support and understanding. I did copy the blogs on to Word and will send them to my clients when I think they will be of help to a particular client. I have no problem with people linking me, doing a track-back or asking to use my work. As Trinity had said, she asked and it was very flattering and I obliged. Not a problem at all.

The real problem is that I do extensive research on many of my blogs, I am up until all hours of the night trying to figure out what will be helpful to people. My motto, "Give a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime." I want my people to be successful in such a sincere way that I don't mind.

I have also seen much of my verbiage from my "Marie Anna" listing on other advisers listings. Some verbatim. I have even seen a play on my name and much of the same verbiage, but I don't care about that nonsense. I haven't the time or energy to report them nor do I really care.

It bothers me that something that was suppose to be my hard work for my clients and Keen clients to access information for free being used to drawn in clients or paying customers to other sites and in one case, (and I couldn't believe it) a personal coach, it was my words exactly.

In addition to that, I try my darndest to make sure that my blogs come from me and that they are as original as they can be. It's like me stealing something from Bob Proctor, The Teachings of Abraham or Jack Canfield. How insane is that? I'm not comparing myself to these people, I'm just thinking that what bad Karma would that be?

Who said, "To imitate someone is to pay the person a genuine compliment—often an unintended compliment."?  

I'm going to let this go and let this be a lesson for me. I'll still write my blogs and hand them to people as needed. I'm getting very shy about posting anything on the internet at this time.

With kind regards-Marie

Marie-Anna, I posted a blog here on Keen several weeks ago regarding Plagiarism and it got quite a response.  It slowed down some of the people doing it for a few days, some it didn't faze and a few even changed their photo to an icon.

While this may be a form of flattery, it still rankles.  As a published poet, I have legitimate concerns when someone uses my work without permission.  As an individual, I have concerns about the character of people who steal other people's work and put their own name to it.

They appear to count on the fact that we who originate the work, will not take the time or energy to prosecute.  I can't advise others who have had their work plagiarized to take action or let it go, but I, for one, will certainly take action the next time my work is taken without permission.  This seems to be the only way to stop this trend among those who can't think for themselves.

I only wish Keen would allow the posting of names of the advisors who plagarize others.  Perhaps once identified, they would then stop. Keen said to let them know who the offenders are and they would take appropriate action, but I, like you, do not want to "police" our own site.

It would be a shame to lose your voice and the voices of other truely talented people here on Keen Blog.

Sorry I've taken up so much room on your blog, but this is a very touchy subject with me.  Don't allow the few to control what you write.

May you always walk in the light of the angels,
Lori

we have to remember that some of these advisors are not educated or professionals. they just do not understand consequences. some advisors come from a world that they can do what they want. the fake pics are the worst to me. if a person does not want to show their face use a plant or something but not another person's pic. that is identity theft.
the problem is that keen can not regulate the activity of such a huge site. i do think that if an advisor is caught plagarising that they should be banned from keen.

Dr.  Donna,
I agree, they should be banned from Keen, but I also think that many who plagarize do so knowingly and then hide behind the guise of igorance of the law when caught.  The photos ARE the worst.  These people won't use their own pics for identy safety reasons, but they will put someone else into that position?  I do not use my own photo for recognition issues, but I chose to use a "generic" icon instead.  If I don't want to be recognized, why would I deliberately put someone else at risk?  Think about it, people, before using someone else's photo or profile info.

All that I will say on this "subject" is I respect your feelings Marie Anna and your blog you have created on this subject.

I personally tend to look further towards the goal of life.  To help provide loving and safe havens for people to get what they need. I know it is hard to see past when you feel you invested your time and your efforts into research and it came from within your own creative vessel. But, I ask you this what the heck are we are here for as a whole? Does everything have to be yours and mine? Even people that state that they do not use another individuals work of art or words at one time or another, have done so.
It just does not seem that important anymore I guess to me. So many people going to the same space at the same time, kinda sweet.. If someone is using your words that you "thought of" or creatively was inspired I would say that they must of thought what you have said or written to be brillant. Wisdomatic, Unique, There is nothing we do that goes unseen, in the eyes of the beholder, yes? We are all responsible for what we do, and what we think, and what we become.* If you slam the door on someone else, just know that it was seen even if you think that you got away with doing so.
Rosie, write your heart out and share your research, because I for one have gained alot of information that helped me and my family. And...To anyone else that finds great information that some how you fell upon share it for isn't that what we are here to invest our time into, helping, creating, see past the alter ego that says it is mine and what is mine is all mine. Thank you Marie Anna wonderful fruitful thinking for me tonight..
Hugs- Donna

Good lord already.  Intellectual property has nothing to do with safe havens or keeping from people what they need to be happy and healthy.  It is about ownership, integrity, and originality.  It is about livelihood and perpetuation of innovation!!!!!  

Look at it like this....some of the most brilliant people of Keen have opted to no blog any longer because their words were being stolen.  (And yes, I 100% see putting YOUR name on someone ELSE'S thoughts and mind product as THEFT!!!)   People who come to Keen blogs looking for insight and intelligence will miss out on their input because someone else did not know right from wrong.

But even beyond unimportant Keen blogs.  There's the world to consider.  People spend time and money to educate themselves.  They in turn use this education to produce a higher level of mind product than would come from those less educated.  When some random person can just come and say, "I wrote this!!" and use it to make a profit with out the effort...they have stolen not only mind product but also profit.  Why not just forgo the intellectual property theft completely and allow someone to steal cash directly from the pocket of the author/creator?  

Does every everything have to be yours or mine?  No.  The air I breathe (for now) is free to all.  But damnit, if I write "it" and "it" is unique...its mine, unless I've assigned its right to another.  People in the real world out here...this is how we make our livings.  If you grow a tomato for your dinner and I steal it, how cool is that?  It's not like I offered to share it...just POOF, took it before you could benefit from its nurishment.

Intellectual property is a commodity.  Deal with it.  I know it's a hard concept for some people.  Stealing is stealing.  If you steal someone's photo and pretend it is you...shame on you!

Mathie, Amen. It is not right to steal pics or others intellectual material. It is that simple. I put thought into my blogs and I am a very busy woman. I would be mad if someone took my writings and made it their own. I went to school with cheaters. I am tired of cheaters.

Sleep well all,  for tomorrow is another day with much goodness to unfold if you wish to see that and be that.

Hugs,
Donna

Doc D,  

I think the mast majority of people who oppose intellectual property are the ones who do not contribute to its pool.  I can not imagine being a non-creator, but moreso, I cannot imagine opposing ownership to those who create.  Small neural channels?  

Why is intellectual property any different than real property?  Imagine if I move my arse right in to someone's home and claimed it as mine.  Without having struggled for the mortgage payments or down payment or maintaining good credit...just said, "I'm taking this."  Society would never stand for it.  And so we are supposed to stand for a similar event with intellectual property?

Such BS.  

Mathie very well put! I do not know how anyone justifies theft. It is theft. There is no justification for stealing ever!

Well, I am still doing blogs and exercises of the day, but I am not blogging them any longer. I will send them to clients when I feel that they may need or want them.

Yes, I spend time and money to educate myself for my clients' sake. It's thief of intellectual property. But it won't stop me from helping clients get what they want in their lives.

Thanks for all of the support!
With kindest regards
Marie

My Dear Marie Anna:  
You are a very wise and accurate advisor, who has never been wrong for me.  Whoever stole your words, did it out of jealousy, wishing they could even be half as good as you!     I will greatly miss reading your insightful entries on your blog!  -- Deanna

Well, I decided to post.... because I LOVED reading Marie's blogs. I took advice from them. I understand why they were removed and I think it is a shame... that the sneakiness  and underhandedness of some people affects those of us who genuinely enjoyed reading these blogs and found them helpful.
But, alas, that is life.....

ok

i understand.

Imitation is the sincerest of flattery.
Charles Caleb Colton

OK...so I am late, but I just wanted to say, that I think that you should continue your work as you have without allowing the perception of this being a negative affect you.  I am a potential new caller and was very pleased and excited about the daily lessons.  Many of us need something everyday to focus on and practice to keep our mind on Spirit in this day and time.  I was excited to see that you offered this and then disappointed when I saw that you no longer offer this.  
Think about it like this....in your description you state that there is enough abundance for everyone and that you are here to help people especially by assisting others in shaping and molding their realities, which is so overlooked these days.  Not only are most people not aware that they even can change their reality, but then if they know they can they are not sure exactly how.  Also, everyone cannot afford a per minute spiritual consultation at present and maybe your lessons could help someone in a desolate financial situation to increase their financial prosperity to a point where they were in a better place and could thus afford your services and much more which would help their life to be easier and more stress free in general.  
You also stated that we are all connected, which we are and that you are here to help everyone.  So, even though someone took your writings without proper acknowledgement, it is still going to the greater good of us all.  Think of how many lives you are touching and how many people you are helping without even doing so intentionally.  The advancement of one is the advancement of all, yes?  So either way, whether we perceive it as wrong or not, on a universal level, it still assists in advancement and evolution, which is what we seek?  Yes?
I love you and I think you are great.  I have yet to have a reading, but for some reason (yes, we all know the reason ( :  - I was prompted to write this.
Do not stop what you are doing for this reason that you mentioned.  Yes, the pride of it all hurts, the countless hours and much energy and research that you put into this matters and it bothers you that someone just cut and pasted -- right?  True, I feel you.  But the bigger picture is, we need as much information on spiritual evolution and day to day management as we can possibly get.  Everything happens for a reason....Everything comes from something.  There is nothing new under the sun and even you received your information from some where and were inspired to compile it as you did and post it.  So even though someone may have taken your posts without permission and the proper acknowledgment, in the grand scheme of things, is it really hurting or still helping and in an even bigger way?  You know the Spirit will make sure that you receive your just due in the end and even right now, a negative is not a negative as we perceive it.  There really is no negative here -- they stole your stuff---because you are great and they posted it on their sites -- thousands of others have come across it -- it has helped them -- helped them help their friends family co-workers, etc.  who helped their circles and on and on...Your original intent to help people has increased because people have taken your work and spread it around more and more to potentially thousands and thousands of others that you would not have reached without them having taken your work and posted it on their site....still a win win in the big picture.

What you do and what you offer is much needed, Please on no wise stop for any reason.  Make your information very hard to copy (there is a way to create the html where someone tries to copy it and it will not allow it) and/or mention that your works are free to all to use/copy only if they site the source and/or copywrite it and/or place your name all through out it making it very difficult to edit.
All in Peace and Perfect Love.