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Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-)

 

. . . from the last post regarding What's Missing From the Secret . . .

 

From : tellitlikeitis
"I have to lovingly disagree with you Fawn. The Secret unleashes the Universal Law of attraction so that people can stop living in such opression. A lot of psychics talk about blocks to getting what you want, but the truth is as we manifest what we desire the blocks automatically come tumbly down. That is how the universe works you put something out there and the universe lines itself up so that you get it, including the blocks.

The only way to get rid of those blocks is to keep putting your wishes out into the universe. Your idea just seems so complicated and miserable. God says that all you need is an ounce of faith and that will get you by. Even if you worried night and day about it but you keep praying about it The Universe/God/Higher Self/You will bring it your way. Through that you will heal and release blocks. It is kind of like saying once your perfect you can have what you want and that is not the case. You heal by following your path and your desires though there may be tears it does not have to be that way.

This is the ideology the Universe wants us to leave behind. This is th ideology that we will be leaving behind. The act of believing you are blocked is the only thing that can block you. THIS IS THE TRUTH. Light. "

From Ms Claritynow

I once believed just as you do. I have some experience in my own truth which reflect just what you say, in fact. However, even with a life time of inner work from the first time I can rembember, I've had some inner programming which, though subtle, is un moving. Now because I am always sending out vibes and feelings and beliefs of desire for what I wish to become - I attract this to the level in which my programming will allow.

 

To rid myself of the programming I must believe with
the faith of THE Secret, that this will tumble away as you say. However, often, more often than not - removing the 'blocks' have to do with inner work, which is in fact very positive as it allows you to go DEEP and find beauty and positive healing resides within. When this occurs, all that you create wth your desires and matching vibrations become powerful a thousand fold, because now we have matched and aligned with faith we couldn't reach before allowing ourselves, with great courage, to go to that sacred place, burn out the pain and fear, and with FAITH become light - and attract to us what we desire. :-)

My greatest joy has been in exploring the womb of Mother Earth and the embrace of Father Sky! To go deep within and shine LIGHT on my heart and soul, this brings tears of  joy & love, which burn through the sorrow . . . as Faith's foundation. It is far from bleak - it is GOOD to allow the tears and power to flow through us so we can cleanse our spirit.

Tears are the seeds we plant at just the right times. They are strong, it is STRONG to allow the tears to flow, and positive. When we weep we often realize we are weeping for that which brings us our greatest joy . . . and to burn through the blocks with joy is a blessing.

The Secret is Truth but there's a road map available which includes a reminder for courage to change (transform) which brings anxiety in truth to many folks. So reaching to our depths, locating the block which brings anxiety, bringing love and light to that area and allowing it to go free; automatically creates a positive burst of faith.

In my mind, you and I are saying the same things only I'm including an element which you believe is not necessary- because if the total faith and focus is on what is desired, there is no need for inner work. So true, for those who align in one desire,  with no blocks to recieving. And even with blocks, sometimes there are moments of clarity & insight which allow us a 'faith surge to create . . . often I find what works for me, is looking deeper, to shine a bright light inside myself; and lovingly align with light and love, from the inside out . . .

 

Light!

Fawn 

I respect ALL opinions on here and invite a conversation about what YOU believe. What works, has worked - in regard to this TRUTH?

Published Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:12 AM by Ms Claritynow
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# re: Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-) @ Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:37 AM

I agree I think we are basically saying the same thing. I mean we are constantly manifesting. Our life is one big manifestation.  The Secret brings to light a more conscious manifesting. It gives people hope and a glimpse at how life can be lived. Now I do think there is a difference between manifesting a new car and manifesting the man of your dreams. Now there are many ways the Universe can bring you a new car. You can win it, someone can give it to you, there could be some unexpected financial gain, etc. But say you want a good honest man with integrity and spirituality who is going to sweep you off your feet. Well, that is going to take a lot more inner work than getting that new car. In order for the Universe to bring you a mate, that man has to be attracted to you and be willing and desiring to sweep you off your feet. Besides, an honest, spiritual man with integrity are few and far between and those men are looking for women similar to themselves so if you are not the one, those men will pass you by. But you can manifest a change in yourself the same way you manifest anything but it has to be your conscious intention to do so. The inner work is the blossoming of the flower and the man is the fragrance. I agree that it is the natural result. Conscious manifesting is a blossoming in its own right because it is conscious which clears all blocks. The movie teaches you to act and feel as though you already have it. Well the acting and feeling is part of the inner work. So say you want this new man but you are jealous of your friend who has a great guy. Would you be jealous if you felt like you already had a great guy? If you continue to manifest the Universe will line everything up for you and remove blocks for your including the inner blocks. Yes of course that will take work, tears, pain, joy, laughter etc because that is what life brings anyway. Through conscious manifesting one can realize the need for inner change. Desire can then become a catalyst for self-realization. Love and Light.

tellitlikeitis

# re: Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-) @ Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:46 PM

Agreed :-) and my point has been the misunderstanding that creation of our reality is simply wishing  as I feel is implied by The Secret  - though I'm one of those who love the existance of this movie . . . personal transformation involves a deep inner change which transforms everything about a 'belief' , as if a desire 'is so'. ;  . Even if to do so requires courage to believe in a new way . . . and a release of  un serving beliefs we hold dear to our hearts-. This is work . . . beautiful focused inner work. Sometimes to realize this brings tears and stirs things up within us. FREEING our energies so we can create with full joy and desire :-)

Ms Claritynow

# re: Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-) @ Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:07 PM

I feel that the most important secret to manifesting is being receptive. If you do not feel worthy of the gifts that god has put at our finger tips, you can wish all day, believe all you want about something, but if you are not open to recieving it, nothing is going to happen for you.We all believe we should get what we are paying for. Like going to the drive in for a hamberger. We put in our order, pay and recieve. The problem with the other things in life that we want is most do not feel worthy and therefor not receptive. We have all been taught that we have to work for it. Jesus just knew without a dought that it was already done. In the blink of an eye, he recieved the gifts. He knew he was worthy and his teachings are about just that.

Mystical Places

# re: Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-) @ Friday, September 14, 2007 8:38 AM

Yes, This is so true!

Thanks for your input. I'm not attached to whether or not someone agrees with me - and love healthy conversations/debates :-) So it's refreshing to have your note here.

Light!
Fawn

Ms Claritynow

# re: Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-) @ Friday, September 14, 2007 6:01 PM

I wrote a blog about how we are all naked to the Universe.  So, it is to our advantage to have a clean and pure energy field.

Some of our beliefs, especially the collective belief in lack, are deep and entrenched.  Inner work is mandatory to initiate transcendence into a higher vibration and dissolve these patterns.  Thinking and affirming is great, but the old patterns that do not serve will get triggered and then what?

When I am of the awareness to accept and love all parts of me, the one's that I would be prone to reject are given love and they become something else entirely.  Their trapped energy is then released and can be used consciously.

There is no way can escape looking within and jumping into the shadow waters.  That is where the treasure is!  The treasure is not out there in the next manifestation. lol!  We must become that which we want and how is that possible without doing inner work?
:)Malika

Alexa Fine

# re: Response to Disagreement and Invitation for Discussion :-) @ Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:49 AM

Malika that's so very well put! Thanks for writing a comment here :-)

Ms Claritynow

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